< Winton Gear Cutting Machine, 1890's, Farm machine projects
Farm machines
not on display
but safe!
Farm Machines, The Winton Gear Cutting Machine 1890s.
Farm-Machines/Whiton-Machine-Co-Gear-cutting-Machine as found in Kanas.
Below...Is this where the Winton is, is from, you ask?
No, it's not this place,
this is the well-funded Henry FORD Museum, Arlington-and-Sims-Machine-Shop-Edison-Henry-Ford-Museum 1890 to 1919. "
Ornate Winton Gear Cutting
Machine Factory, not dealer,
supplied brass nameplate."
Farm-Machines-Winton Gear Cutting Machine Headstock I intend to rebuild ca1890's.
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Winton Gear Cutting Machine uncovered from Kanas.
Farm-Machines-Milkhouse-DSCN2055-Whitney Hand Horizontal Milling machine 1890's to WWI
Farm-Machines/Farm-Machines-Milkhouse-DSCN2055-Whitney-Horiz-Mill.JPG Close-up 1900 to WWI
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Antique Machinery and History Discussion of
antique machinery and the history of machine
types and their manufacturers

#1 (permalink)    05-16-2007, 05:00 PM  
Aluminum   Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Plainville, CT USA
Posts: 63  

I just made a lucky acquisition. Through a friends referral, I was able to acquire
via a trade a very nice early D. E. Whiton gear cutting machine. It uses standard
involute gear milling cutters. I’ve attached some photos. I’m just about positive it
was built pre-1900. D. E. Whiton moved their factory to New London, CT in 1886,
so a pre-1900 manufacturing date is certainly possible, and the machine’s general
design strongly suggests that era. It will cut gears from a fraction of an inch up to
30 inches in diameter, with either straight or angled teeth. It will also cut bevel
(miter) gears at any angle between zero and 90 degrees. There is provision for
both manual and power feed of the cutter carriage and a very efficient quick
indexing mechanism. This machine was originally equipped with 42 index plates
which allowed cutting any number of gear teeth up to 100 and many additional
gear tooth counts above 100. Miraculously, all 42 of the original index plates are
still with the machine, as well as about a dozen different original arbors for
holding the gear blanks. Additional index plates are easily made – I already plan
to make one for cutting 127 tooth gears for making metric conversions. This
couldn’t have come at a better time either since I am planning to make full sets of
metric change gears for both my Rivett 608 and my Pratt & Whitney Model B
lathes. Here's a look at the new machine and some links to more photos:











#2 (permalink)    05-16-2007, 06:07 PM  
Bruce Johnson  
Stainless   Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Burbank, CA USA
Posts: 1,011  


What an amazing old machine! A simple and versatile design. Probably kind of
slow for production, but easy to set up for one-offs. I want one  !

I wonder what the original belt drive setup was? I assume a flat belt to a
lineshaft, but was there a floating jackshaft? I looks like the input shaft would
move with the stroke of the head.
Bruce Johnson

#3 (permalink)    05-16-2007, 07:06 PM  
Cast Iron   Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: St. Pete. Florida USA
Posts: 291  


I agree with Bruce. I want one and I thought your little Wormwood planer was the
slickest thing I had seen in awhile !

Now we know who to turn to when looking for those missing gears for our Rivetts.


#4 (permalink)    05-16-2007, 10:08 PM  
Hot Rolled   Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Poquoson, VA USA
Posts: 601  


I wonder what the original belt drive setup was? I assume a flat belt to a
lineshaft, but was there a floating jackshaft? I looks like the input shaft would
move with the stroke of the head.  

Here's a picture of a Whiton cutter from shopswarf's web site -

Can anyone figure from the countershaft how it was belted. I'd like to know too.
I'm getting an old Whiton cutter some day soon. It's older than Franks' and
doesn't have the bells and whistles his does. It doesn't come with the original
countershaft, so I'll have to figure out how to run the belts. Here's the one I
getting -

Also, here's a couple pictures of another Whiton gearcutter from the Brink auction
in Kansas a while back -

They just have a single pulley on the machine, so the floating stuff, if that's what
they used, is all up on the countershaft.

They are neat old machines, aren't they! [img]smile.gif[/img]


#5 (permalink)    05-16-2007, 11:19 PM  
Titanium   Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 2,612  


I want one too! Gary P. Hansen

#6 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 12:58 AM  
Aluminum   Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Plainville, CT USA
Posts: 63  



Thanks for the great photos. The very last thing I expect to see was a whole herd
of D. E. Whiton gear cutting machines! From what I can see, the main difference
between your soon-to-be machine and mine is that mine has a power down feed
which can be engaged or not by swinging one of the worm gears into or out of

Regarding the drive, mine has a recently added hinged platform under the table
for use as a motor mount. The drive is now set up for a V-belt - not very authentic
but it should work fine. As far as the original drive arrangement, yes, the
overhead drive pulley would certainly have to travel with the spindle carriage. I
can offer only one clue as to how it might have been done with overhead shafting.
One of the items that came with my machine was a 128 pound cast iron
counterweight which appeared to have been accompanying the machine for some
time. It's a simple solid cylindrical casting about 8" in diameter with an eyebolt
screwed into the top to hang it. Perhaps this was the counterweight for the
overhead drive pulley.

Consider a teeter-totter balanced arm kind of arrangement with the drive pulley
on one end of it and the counterweight on the other. If the arm pivoted on the
same axis as the line shaft, the drive pulley would always stay the same distance
from the line shaft, allowing a belt to transmit constant power from the line shaft
to the drive pulley. If the counterweight was hung an appropriate distance out on
the other end of the arm, it would provide a counterbalance for the drive pulley
plus sufficient belt tension to transmit power to the driven pulley. And since the
arm is on a central pivot, the drive pulley could follow the machine's spindle
carriage up and down while maintaining constant power transmission to the driven
pulley on the machine. That's one possibility anyway.

Also, I have a question regarding the indexing mechanism. Its basic function is
clear, but the indexing procedure requires you to skip the same number of
notches on the index plate every time you advance the gear blank for the next
cut, similar to skipping a set number of holes in the plate on an indexing head. On
an indexing head, the quadrant helps you to avoid errors by providing a positive
positioning indictor for inserting the indexing pin. I don't see anything (yet) on the
indexing mechanism of the Whiton machine that provides a positive stop so that
the ratchet picks up the same number of notches every time you swing the
indexing lever. I'm sure there must have been some provision for a feature like
this. Any idea how it worked?


#7 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 02:09 AM  
Senior Member   Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 362  


I want one too.
I know, not very original...

Say can ya share a better shot of the table of divisions??

#8 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 08:53 AM  
Hot Rolled   Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Poquoson, VA USA
Posts: 601  

Thanks for all the pictures of your machine! Until I get mine in-hand, your pictures
are all I have to go by as far as how the thing works.

As to the indexing, I see a flat on the indexing lever that looks like it can be used
against a stop. But I don't see a stop. And if there were stops to limit the swing
of the lever, there should be another stop in the opposite direction, I would think.
Maybe that flat on the lever hits the base of the machine if you swing it all the
way around. Then you would count the notches as you swing it back. To index the
gear blank, you'd move the lever until it stops against the side of the base again. I
don't really think they would have relied on just counting though. What we need to
show up somewhere is a manual for this machine. As if they even had such a
thing back then.

Basically, I don't know how it works!


#9 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 11:21 AM  
Diamond   Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 4,449  


Great machines guys..... Irby, is that photo from the Brink the one I took? That's
OK if it is..... and the last photo is that the same machine inside Brink's barn?
Were you there?

#10 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 04:01 PM  
Hot Rolled   Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Poquoson, VA USA
Posts: 601  



I wasn't there, but I wish I had been (and with a BIG trailer and a BIGGER
wallet). I got the first picture from the time they were posted here, I think. And
the second one from a friend. Both a while back, and now they are just on my
computer. If I had known who took them, I'd have given some credit. So you
were there? You're out that way.    
I know Rich Spens
bought the Whiton cutter and at least the
Boynton & Plummer shaper, maybe more.
(Yes I did )The second picture may even
have come from his web site. Yes, the
second picture is the same machine inside.


#11 (permalink)    05-17-2007, 06:08 PM  
Aluminum   Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Plainville, CT USA
Posts: 63  



How's this?


#12 (permalink)    05-18-2007, 12:03 AM  
Hot Rolled   Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Grand Island, NY USA
Posts: 788  


Drool !!!

Jim C.
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Above: Winton gear cutting machine ca 1895 to 1920. Prob by ornate fluted design 1890
I bought at the Breck auction in Kanas.
The No. 2   Winton gear cutting machine ca
              No. 2, With Rack Cutting Attachment.

I have One of these I have unrestores from the east coast.

The No. 2 machine will cut spur gears and will finish worm gears by the hobbling
process from blanks not previously nicked. It is similar to time No. 1 machine, except
that there is no provision for setting over the cutter head at an angle to time axis of the

Diameter of gears cut, 36”
Sace of gears cut,  9 1/2
Diametral pitch,  5
Size hole in cutter.  7/8
Countershaft pulleys, 10  x  3
Speed of countershaft, R. P.M.  280
               Machine pulley, 11 x 2 3/8                                                                                                                                Speeds, of machine pulley,
R. P. M., 190, 280   

This attachment may be fitted to the No.1 or to the 2 machines as preferred. The spacing is arranged only for racks
To mesh with pinions cut according to diametric pitch. The regular attachment (shown in cut) will hold
Racks •32 inches long by 4 1/2 inches wide. Special work holders for longer racks can be made to order. By the use of suitable supporting floor
stands upon a firm foundation very long work holders may be safely ii used.
The No.1 machine can be furnished with a reversible feed. This device does not interfere with the application of the rack attachment, so that
feeding in either direction is available in rack cutting if desired.
Prices for regular or special attachments will be quoated on application.
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New York manuf'r of "Gresham" Patent Automatic Re-Starting Injector; Cleveland Twist Drill Co. of Cleveland, O. manuf'r of Drills & Reamers; National
Pulley Covering Co. of Baltimore, Md. manuf'r of Friction Pulley Covers; Fitchburg Machine Works of Fitchburg, Mass. manuf'r of Metal Working
Machines; Henry Carey Baird & Co. of Phil., Pa. Industial Publishers, Booksellers & Importers; Volney W. Mason & Co. of Providence, R.I. manuf'r of
Friction Pulleys, Clutches & Elevators; P.H. & F.M. Roots of Connersville, Ind. manuf'r of Force Blast Rotary Blowers for Foundries, Smith Shops,
Pneumatic Tubes, Ventilation, ect.; Beaudry & Co.(formerly of Beaudry's Upright Power Hammer) of Boston, mass. manuf'r of Presses, Shears, Punches &
Hard Coal Heating Forges; C.F. Richardson of Athol, Mass. manuf'r of Nickel Plated Pocket Levels; Henderson Bros. of Waterbury, CT. manuf'r of Exhaust
Tumbling Barrels; C.W. LeCount of South Norwalk, Conn. manuf'r of Lathe Dogs & other Drop Forgings; Park Mfg. Co. of Boston manuf'r of Injectors,
Ejectors & Jet Apparatus; T. Shriver & Co.'s Iron Foundry of N.Y.; The Volker & Felthousen M'F'G. Co. of Buffalo, N.Y. manuf'r of Steam Pumps;
Pulsometer Steam Pump Co. of N.Y. manuf'r of Steam Pumps; Hall Steam Pump Co. of N.Y. builders of Steam Pumps; Jas. Hunter & son of North
Adams, Mass. manuf'r of Clutch Pulleys & Cutt-Off Couplings; Union Stone Co. of Boston manuf'r of Emery Wheels, Grinding Mach., Polishing & Plating
Goods and Tools; Edwards Meeks of Phil. - Publisher; Gage Tool Co. of Vineland, N.J. manuf'r of Planes & Hand Tools; Henry R. Worthington of N.Y.
manuf'r of Independent Condensers; Niles Tool Works of Hamilton, Ohio manuf'r of Machine Tools; Buckeye Engine Co. of Salem, Ohio manuf'r of
engines; The Garvin Machine Co. of N.Y. manuf'r of Machines & Machine Tools; Manning, Maxwell & Moore of N.Y. manuf'r of Railway and Machinists'
Tools & Supplies; Lexington Gear Works of Lex., Mass. makers of Gears; M.C. Bullock of Chicago, Ill. manuf'r of Bullock-Corliss Engines, Diamond Drills
for Prospecting, Band Friction Hoists & Mining Mach.; The Lane & Bodley Co. of Cin., Ohio manuf'r of Corliss Engines; G.S. Woolman of New York
manuf'r of Drawing Instuments; The D. Frisbie Co. of N.Y. manuf'r of Frisbie Friction Pulleys & Clutches; The Ball & Wood Co. of Elizabeth, N.J. manuf'r
of Ball Automatic Cut-Off Engines; Lackawanna Lubricating Co. of Scranton, PA. manuf'r of Grease Cups; The De Lamater Iron Works of N.Y. manuf'r of
General Machinery; Henry Warden Manufacturer of Phil., PA. manuf'r of Atkinson Cycle Gas Engines; The Hilles & Jones Co. of Wilmington, Del.
manuf'r of Machine Tools; Bement, Miles & Co. of Phil., Pa. manuf'r of Metal-Working Mach. Tools; William Sellers & Co. of Phil., Pa. manuf'r of
Machine Tolls for Working Iron & Steel; The New Process Raw Hide Co. of Syracuse, N.Y manuf'r of Raw Hide Gears; Southwark Foundry & Machine Co.
of Phil., Penn. manuf'r of Boileers, Steam Hammers, Blowing & Reversing Engines, Centrifugal Pumps, Steam Pumps & Heavy Castings; The Norton &
Jones Machine Tool Works of Plainville, Conn. manuf'r of Machine Tools & Special machinery; The Champion Blower & Forge Co. of Lancaster, Pa.;
J.D. wright & Sons of Brooklyn, N.Y.; The Cincinnati Milling Machine Co. of Cincinnati, O.; N.P. Bowsher of South Bend, Ind.; J.E. snyder of Worcester,
Mass.; Edison General Electric Company; American Gas Furnace Co. of N.Y.; Landis Bros. of Waynesboro, Pa.; Trump Bros. Machine Co. of
Wilmington, Delaware; R.D. Nuttall & Co. of Allegheny, PA.; Giant Key-Seater Co. of East Saginaw, Mich.; Light Drill Presses of Hartford, Conn.; J.E.
Lonergan & Co. of Phila., Pa.; Harrison Safety Boiler Works of Phil., Pa.; T.M. Foote Regulator Co. of Boston; Adriance Machine Works of Brooklyn, N.Y.
manuf'r of Gang Slitters, Automatic Screw Machines and Double Seamers; Samuel C. Rogers & Co. of Buffalo; Alfred Box & Co. of Phila., Pa.; Van
Duzen Gas & Gasoline Engine Co. of Cincinnati, O.; Capitol Mfg. Co. of Chicago; M.T. Davidson of Brooklyn, N.Y.; The States Machine Co. of Newark,
N.J.; L. & R. Wister & Co. of Phila., PA.; John Royle & Sons of Paterson, N.J.; Penberthy Injector Co. of Detroit, Mich.; A.J. Wilkinson & Co. of Boston;
William Jessop & Sons, L'd. of Sheffield, England; Crescent Steel Co. of pittsburgh, Pa.; .

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